纸上谈兵

纸上谈兵 zhǐ shàng tán bīng

Theory from someone who has never done the thing

Intermediate zhishangtanbing

What 纸上谈兵 means

In use
Theory from someone who has never done the thing
Literally
discuss warfare on paper
Pinyin
zhǐ shàng tán bīng

The gap between those first two lines is the whole point of a chengyu. It is quoted whole, never assembled, and the literal reading is a picture from the story below rather than a definition — which is why translating the four characters one at a time rarely gets you there.


How our dictionary glosses it

Idle theorizing (theoretical - military tactics on paper) — full dictionary entry.

The story behind 纸上谈兵

Zhao Kuo could out-argue any general alive on the classics of strategy, including his own father, who warned that war is not a book. Given command at Changping anyway, he abandoned a sound defensive line for an attack out of the manuals. Four hundred thousand men of Zhao were lost.

Source: 《史记》Records of the Grand Historian, c. 94 BC

Character by character

The reading shown is the one each character takes inside this idiom — chengyu keep older readings, so it is not always the everyday one. The meanings are read from the same dictionary that powers the translators.

zhǐ
Paper
shàng
Above (on - go up - upper - first)
tán
Talk (chat - discuss)
bīng
Soldiers (army - military)

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Questions about 纸上谈兵

What does 纸上谈兵 mean?

纸上谈兵 is pronounced zhǐ shàng tán bīng and means theory from someone who has never done the thing. Literally it says "discuss warfare on paper" — like most chengyu, the literal reading is a picture from a story rather than a definition.

Where does 纸上谈兵 come from?

《史记》Records of the Grand Historian, c. 94 BC. Zhao Kuo could out-argue any general alive on the classics of strategy, including his own father, who warned that war is not a book. Given command at Changping anyway, he abandoned a sound defensive line for an attack out of the manuals. Four hundred thousand men of Zhao were lost.

How do you pronounce 纸上谈兵?

zhǐ shàng tán bīng. Press the audio button on this page to hear it spoken by a native voice. Tones here are citation tones, so 一 is written yī even where it is said yí in running speech.

What do the characters in 纸上谈兵 mean?

纸 (zhǐ) Paper, 上 (shàng) Above (on - go up - upper - first), 谈 (tán) Talk (chat - discuss), 兵 (bīng) Soldiers (army - military). These meanings come from the same dictionary as the translators on this site, and the reading shown is the one the character takes inside this idiom.

Is 纸上谈兵 still used today?

Yes. Chengyu are not archaic — they are ordinary educated speech, and they turn up in conversation, newspapers and exams. This one sits in the intermediate band, which reflects how common it is and how hard its characters are.

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